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The desperate need for jobs

Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:36 AM EDT
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By Becks72
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       The secret of job creation is that it is no secret.  Look to Germany and there success, faced with high unemployment and a lack of jobs the government forced a show down with companies and unions. Today Germany is a leader in the recovery and employment runs high.  It wasn't done with out trickle down economics or corporate welfare but government, business and unions working together to keep jobs in Germany.

       We need to insist that the government force business and unions to work towards keeping jobs in America. The threat of loss of access to our markets, tariffs and taxes should be used as leverage. Corporate welfare and subsidies have been proven not to work and cash rich corporations plan their hiring and expansion to be off shore. The carrot didn't work time for the stick.  Move jobs off shore risk losing access to our markets. Pay multimillion s to your CEO's risk extremity high taxes. Our business need to profit not only management but the workers and the nation.

 

      Political parties and political organizations such as the Chamber of Commerce need to be put on notice that the voters will except nothing less than decent jobs for all who want them and an end to lobbyist that promote the corruption of our government.  American jobs for American workers now and a world economy be dammed.

 

 

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Becks72

America needs jobs, not wars, not military spending but jobs

  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:55 AM EDT
Real World Engineer

America since it's founding has never had any substantial amount of time during which it was not involved directly or indirectly in military conflict.

America is a nation of WAR and military conflict. That won't be chaning anytime soon.

    #1.1 - Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:47 PM EDT
    follow the money

    check out this article on jobs, and also who is doing it..here: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2010/09/10/173511/gop-outsources-it/

    • 2 votes
    #1.2 - Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:41 AM EDT
    WatchTheOtherHand

    Propaganda aside. If you want businesses to create jobs here, then you need to ENCOURAGE them to do so. Businesses WANT to create jobs, its how they grow and expand. You can't PUNISH a company to create jobs.

    The propaganda has so confounded the actual reality of the situation as to make people completely clueless as to what is happening.

    Businesses don't get 'tax breaks' to offshore operations. They just don't get taxed on stuff they do overseas. Just like I don't get taxed on my income by California because I live in Michigan. If a company builds a product overseas, employees people overseas, and sells the product overseas... guess what.. the US doesn't get to tax those items, or people. If that company that "imports" those products back to the US, then the government gets to tax them. That is the way it works.

    The fact is businesses are moving overseas because the US is becoming a crappy place to do business.

    So go ahead, pass some more punitive laws to punish businesses in the US. Let's see how long it takes for them to find better places to move as well.

      #1.3 - Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:54 AM EDT
      Becks72

      Exon paid no taxes along with many other multinationals that received subsidies from US tax payers.
      http://www.loc.gov/rr/business/hottopic/irs_history.html
      http://www.askquestions.org/articles/taxes/#01

      • 4 votes
      #1.4 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:59 AM EDT
      WatchTheOtherHand

      http://www2.starexponent.com/news/2010/nov/29/not-so-fast-exxon-mobil-indeed-paid-plenty-taxes-l-ar-681876/

      Yeah... $15 billion in taxes... is nothing huh..

      Oh wait... only the left is supposed to use the argument that the "poor" pay plenty of taxes, just not income taxes.

        #1.5 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:13 PM EDT
        Kearney Outlaw

        Record profits and 20% unemployment. They don't need any "encouragement."

        • 2 votes
        #1.6 - Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:31 PM EDT
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        Kearney Outlaw

        Well said, Becks.

        Tax cuts for the rich results in wealthier wealthy and more jobs in places like India. It does nothing for us at home.

        We need to shift the focus to workers instead of always holding up the millionaires as examples of "this could be you!"

        • 3 votes
        Reply#2 - Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:36 PM EDT
        SuckerFish

        We need to stop the flooding concept of tax breaks for business. Business does not open the doors with more free money and share the wealth. The corporate owners and managers just take home bigger bonuses, allowing them to spend more money on themselves. There is no "trickle".....there is only a spray of recycled water slamming us in the face, when the limos speed by us on the streets.

        Tax the corporations for not spending that profit in the states. Higher taxes for off-shore profits. After all, America still covers any citizen who happens to scream "help" off-shore. It is time for these corporations to start paying back for the protection that they seek when foreign governments go berserk, again and again.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#3 - Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:16 PM EDT
        gmross

        It's just so sad that both parties can't see that what they are doing in Washington isn't working for the majority of the people. The partisan fighting in congress over the past twenty years has distroyed all chances of job creation, it's time we had a congress that could work together to make things right.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#4 - Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:18 PM EDT
        Becks72

        The other side of the coin is if more people are working it creates more income to pay down the deficit from the taxes. No one likes to pay taxes but the poor and middle class have little or no choice. The shift of the tax burden to the poor and middle class has been like a steady slow march to the sea.

        http://www.askquestions.org/articles/taxes/#01

        The GOP have been steadfast in their support of the financial elite and corporations which is their nature. What is surprising is how propaganda and fear politics hold sway on the middle class. If you tax us we will move jobs over seas, we haven't taxed them and they moved the jobs over seas. We have corporate welfare which is alright with the GOP but social welfare is bad.

        http://www.ctj.org/pdf/12corps060111.pdf

        • 5 votes
        Reply#5 - Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:28 PM EDT
        Castor Bridge

        The real unemployment rate is at least 20%. If the government takes all of the money from the wealthiest it will not touch the national debt. Stagflation is definitely in our economic future. Our elitist, champagne socialist president kills the exploration for domestic oil while giving billions of dollars to Brazil for oil exploration to support George Soros investment. He is cold bloodedly using EPS regulations to achieve his goal of $5 a gallon gasoline which will devastate the poor and elderly. The election of 2012 can't arrive too soon.

          Reply#6 - Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:35 PM EDT
          Becks72

          You are right repealing the tax cuts for the rich will not do the trick but add farm subsidies, corporate welfare and corporate subsidies and end the wars with the outrageous spending by the State department and it is a different story.

          http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/politics/us-foreign-aid.htm

          http://farm.ewg.org/sites/farmbill2007/index.php

          http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/11/global-military-spending-growth-slowest-since-2001/

          Be careful and do your home work putting thieves back in office is dangerous.

          http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0403-10.htm

          http://costanzo.org/Rex/Commentary/cheney_halliburton_circle.htm

          • 6 votes
          #6.1 - Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:23 AM EDT
          freemason9

          Castor Bridge posted this little gem:

          If the government takes all of the money from the wealthiest it will not touch the national debt.

          This is simply not true. In fact, we could eliminate the deficit tomorrow by returning to the pre-Reagan tax structure of 1979. The current deficit and accompanying debt is a political tool used by right wing Republicans to undermine the government and the middle class.

          • 7 votes
          #6.2 - Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:03 PM EDT
          beaz-435179

          Really? And did you know the Koch brothers are among the top five oil speculators driving up the price of oil, hence the price of gas at the pumps. It isn't the oil supply but oil speculation that is the problem, just like produce speculation -- commodity traders are determining the price of oil and food since Bush pulled their regulations. Get used to it and research it while you're at it. The top 12 corporations in America paid no taxes in 2010 and reaped 64.5 billion dollars in subsidies and yet they have the poor defending them, thinking they too might one day be rich.

          • 2 votes
          #6.3 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:52 PM EDT
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          Becks72

          Only when we restrict our markets to resemble fair trade and tax multinational companies and their over paid CEO's will jobs in our country return. We have tried the game the Republicans are pushing it won't work it didn't work and is a primary cause of where we are now.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#7 - Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:02 PM EDT
          Kearney Outlaw

          Here's something else, and I hope someone else can shed more light on it.

          Last year I was looking at moving to Europe. It's not so easy unless you're being transferred as a result of your existing job.

          I found that to simply emigrate, you run into a road block that we in the US don't seem to have.

          Members of the European Union run their labor laws like this: For an employer to fill a position in, say, Britain, the employer must first attempt to hire a British national. If none can be found with the requisite job skills, the employer may THEN consider any citizen from another EU country. If the employer STILL cannot find a suitable candidate for the job, only THEN can they look elsewhere to fill the position.

          I'm not sure what laws are in place to guard jobs here, but I know that in the IT world, many positions are offered first (and sometimes only) to foreign candidates.

          Okay, all you Atlas Shrugged folks. I hear you chuckling. Us stupid Americans aren't as well trained in IT, and we ask for too much money. I'll buy that for programmers or database administrators, but I'm a freaking writer. You mean to tell me that "Robert" in Lahore is better suited for a technical writing gig than an American with twenty-five years experience?

          Something is really wrong here. My answer was to pursue UK citizenship and see what the market is there...

          • 2 votes
          #7.1 - Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:45 PM EDT
          Becks72

          Our laws favor hiring for less money, forty years ago the American design community was desperate for work while engineering companies hired people from the UK for less. But even today an American engineer has little or no chance of employment in the UK.
          Their politicians are more expensive than ours. Or is it the voters would fix the problem quickly ? Many UK people have taken American engineering jobs in favor of citizens and now live in the US. Getting a green card was never an obstacle.

          • 4 votes
          #7.2 - Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:24 PM EDT
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          Rowdytroute

          IMO..You want to know what's in the way of Job Growth in the U.S.

          POLITICAL PARTIES......catering to Wall Street

          • 1 vote
          Reply#8 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:05 AM EDT
          Becks72

          Rowdytroute: Not to put words in your mouth but I believe it is Wall Street corrupting the politicians. I guess it's a true case of the chicken and the egg.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#9 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:27 AM EDT
          Rowdytroute

          Becks72.......Not to put words in your mouth but I believe it is Wall Street corrupting the politicians.

          Maybe true. My point is that both political parties are receiving monies from Wall Street for their re-election campaigns and expecting support for laws (lobbying & lobbyists) favoring Wall Street dominance and ignoring job growth for Main Street or the middle class.......Corruption, the chicken and egg analogue most certainly applies...

          • 2 votes
          #9.1 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:12 AM EDT
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          Becks72

          Job growth is impeded by our economic condition and politicians are failing to admit the cause and fix the problem. Congressman Bernie Sanders statements are right on the mark......

          "Congress and the White House are now focused on how we deal with our huge deficit -- a crisis brought about over the last 10 years by two wars, tax breaks for the rich, the Wall Street bailout and a prescription drug program -- all unpaid for. The deficit also increased as a result of the declining tax revenues during a current recession, caused by the greed and illegal behavior of Wall Street.

          The debate over deficit reduction comes at an unusual moment in American economic history. While the middle class is in rapid decline and poverty is increasing, the wealthiest people in our country and largest corporations are doing phenomenally well. Over the last several decades almost all new income created in this country has gone to the top 1 percent, who now earn more income than the bottom 50 percent. Further, the United States now has the most unequal distribution of wealth of any major country with the top 400 individuals owning more wealth than the bottom 150 million."

          • 4 votes
          Reply#10 - Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT
          retired military ex republican.

          The showdown in thwe USA cannot happen between Government and Big business they are one and the same.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#11 - Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:24 AM EDT
          Foy-49

          The only way to split them up, Government & Big business, is to publicly finance elections.

            #11.1 - Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:54 PM EDT
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            Becks72

            One would hope that the events of the last few years will wake voters up and they will insist on the changes to Government that we so desperately need.

            Five hundred and forty five citizens who are interested in the Nations welfare more than party politics is achievable. We may need to throw all incumbents out for starters. The voters must demand better for our Nation to survive.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#12 - Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:07 PM EDT
            gmross

            yeah i say lets hang all the Republicans out to dry and see who blows away!!

            • 1 vote
            #12.1 - Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:09 PM EDT
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            garyray-501488

            Nice read becks72.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#13 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:19 AM EDT
            Becks72

            Thanks for your input garyray-501488. I think many of us see the problem but how do we get the politicians to ignore their benefactors and do whats right for the Country ?

              Reply#14 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:29 AM EDT
              gmross

              Becks, I don't think there is a way to get the politicians to ignore the money (benefactors) after all that is how they pay for their campaigns, there is no such thing as an honest politician any more.

              • 2 votes
              #14.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:55 PM EDT
              Rowdytroute

              gmross.....I don't think there is a way to get the politicians to ignore the money (benefactors) after all that is how they pay for their campaigns

              Agree....That is exactly my point in comments.... #8...and...#9.1

              there is no such thing as an honest politician any more.

              It's the lesser of two evils....

              • 2 votes
              #14.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:02 PM EDT
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              Becks72

              A century ago, it was Republican President Theodore Roosevelt who advocated for a progressive income tax and an estate tax. In the 1930s, it was Democratic President Franklin Roosevelt, who dealt with the economic and societal carnage that under-regulated financial markets inflicted on the nation during the Great Depression.

              When a majority of Americans voted for Republicans in Election 2010 – and with early polls pointing toward a likely GOP victory in the presidential race of 2012 – it's obvious that large swaths of the population have no sense of what's in store for them as they position their own necks under the boots of corporate masters.

              Whenever the political descendants of Theodore and Franklin Roosevelt tried to steer the nation back toward programs that would benefit the middle class and demand greater sacrifice from the super-rich, the wheel was grabbed again by politicians and pundits shouting the epithets, "tax-and-spend" and "class warfare." The Democrats have not lived up to their heritage of support for the middle class buy any means and when they had the majority talked compromise.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#15 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:06 PM EDT
              Vested Veteran

              Thanks. Clipped to my column, True Americans and the Cherokee Lodge.

                Reply#16 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:50 AM EDT
                Pat P11111

                In the last 60 years:

                The lowest unemployment rate was 2.9%

                The highest top tax rate s was 92%

                Those things occurred simultaneously in 1953.

                During 14 years of 92% or 91% rates the average unemployment was 4.9%

                During 10 years of 70% rates the average unemployment was 6.45%

                During 8 years of current rate of 35% rates the average unemployment was 6.3%

                Tax Rates link:

                http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=213

                Unemployment Rate Link:

                http://www.bls.gov/cps/prev_yrs.htm

                Someone has been spreading lies and they have a lot of money to sell them with.

                Raise the Rate to 90% and solve all our problems.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#17 - Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:27 AM EDT
                Becks72

                Politicians who worked for the good of the average American would raise taxes to promote employment. Then the average politician doesn't work for us.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#18 - Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:42 PM EDT
                gmross

                Becks, nope the average politician doesn't work for us he works for himself and he only cares about how much he can put in his own pockets.

                • 2 votes
                #18.1 - Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:49 PM EDT
                Pat P11111

                I'm not so sure that we should blame the politicians for all this. If you ask the average American if they want their taxes cut they say,"Hell yes!"

                We, the average Joe, have bought into the government and taxes are evil bull.. Where are the average Americans that are well informed enough to ask the next question, "Well what are we going to cut?"

                We listen to all the waste in government and believe it. There is waste every where. 25% of the food produced in the US is thrown away. But who says lets stop producing so much food?

                Ask the average Joe if wealth inequity in this country is a problem and they most likely won't know what you are talking about.

                We need a better discourse in this country. We need a better informed citizens.

                • 2 votes
                #18.2 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:10 PM EDT
                gmross

                Pat, I have to agree with you in part. There are places we can cut but, the average politician isn't going to want to cut these things because it puts more money in their pockets and gets jobs into their states, defense spending can and should be cut, there is a lot of waste there. We can bring home more of our troops from Afghanistan and Iraq. We tax the rich and cut the loopholes that allow them to hide their money overseas and not get taxed on it. Listen Pat, I went on that website that lets you balance the budget, it took me two minutes to not only balance the budget but, to create a surplus, and I didn't have to gut Medicare to do it, or raise taxes on the middleclass or the poor.

                • 1 vote
                #18.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:45 PM EDT
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                Becks72

                We desperately need a free media one that is not controlled by the current corporations. When your editorial goal is to please your advertisers and not the public truth takes a back seat. Today's media is all about popular propaganda.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#19 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:16 PM EDT
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